Supreme Court Confirms Authenticity of Leaked Draft Opinion in Abortion Case - What Does It Say?

How do you feel about the draft opinion?

  • 41.9k
    jimK
    Voted Angry
    05/03/2022

    Welcome back to the seventeenth century, a government guided by Puritanical values and an elite group of Supreme Court right-wing, ‘let-them-eat-cake’, Federalist Society activist ‘Inquisitors’ to force their puritanical views into law.

    The initial ‘Roe’ Supreme Court ruling was predicated on other constitutional guarantees, the same ones that led to the right to privacy, availability and personal use of contraceptives and other broadly accepted and utilized ‘rights’. Just as the draft opinion notes that the word ‘abortion’ does not appear in the Constitution, neither does the ‘right to privacy’ nor the personal use of contraceptives. These and other rights predicated by the same constitutional guarantees can no longer be accepted as guaranteed rights since, if the original Roe decision is invalid, all rights predicated by the same rights must also be invalid. 

    The neo-Inquisitor Justices have violated the law that they are sworn to uphold in their ruling to let the Texas abortion law stand until they can rule on it. Prior rulings of the Supreme Court are the law of the land and should govern everyone, including Supreme Court members themselves, until they can collectively and formally rule on changes to the law. These activist right-wing Justices placed themselves above standing law in allowing Texas to effectively overturn the law of the land, even temporarily. The Supreme Court’s role is to interpret the law and to use existing law to ensure that no newer legislation violates prior law of greater standing. That’s it.

    The right-wing activist Justices have placed themselves and their opinions above the very law that they have sworn to protect. 

    The Justices have all pointed out the duty of the public to trust that they are an apolitical institution so that their interpretation of the laws are enforced - since the Supreme Court has no enforcement capabilities (yet).  Yet, when the conservative appointees outnumber the liberal appointees, the court’s decisions on major issues remarkably align with the political desires of the Federalist Society and not the political needs of the majority of the people. 

    Amy Coney Barrett stressed the need of the public to trust the apolitical nature of the Supreme Court in a speech at the Mitch McConnell center at the University of Kentucky with McConnell sitting on stage with her. The height of hypocrisy given the setting of the speech with Mitch McConnell on stage with her.

    It is imperative that the Supreme Court be trusted as apolitical interpreters of the law for any of their rulings to be enforced, which is the sole providence of other government Branches. 

    ‘Trust’ is one of those properties that cannot be demanded nor mandated. There is no ‘entitlement’ that assures that Supreme Court Justices nor their decisions be ‘trusted’ if they are by nature ‘untrustworthy’. 

    ‘ Trust’ can only be earned by ‘trustworthy’ actions. 

    This is why Justices must recuse themselves from any rulings where it could even appear to violate the public trust, something that is mandated and enforced for Executive Branch Civil Service employees.

    This is why the conservative card-carrying Supreme Court Justice members should resign from the Federalist Society (with tremendous support by our country’s wealthy elite to shape the judiciary and groom like minded judges to move to increasing prominent roles).

    The Federalist Society represents institutionalized corruption sponsored by the Republican Cartel and paid for by the wealthiest of our wealthy elite. The Republican outrage that a draft decision document was released and not hidden away until it could be dumped on the public after it could no affect the midterms tends to discredit the Supreme Court’s apolitical claims as well.

    This should be a clarion call to all the people whose fundamental rights to abortion, privacy, use contraceptives or anything that is not specifically called out by name in the Constitution are about to be expunged by a politicized Supreme Court activist majority who cannot even abide by the courts own prior rulings before any formal ruling to change the laws are made.

  • 474
    Michael_J_L
    05/03/2022

    If that actually becomes a ruling they have handed a blue wave in a lot of the U.S.
    Only 30% approve of overturning Roe vs Wade. Republicans never, contrary to what they always preach, legislate what the majority desires.
    I do agree abortion numbers coming down would be great. IMO however, I think a better decision would be to leave the decision to the mother and doctor and have solid outreach to teach and provide better alternatives, to include birth control which could also reduce abortion numbers. 
    It is a complex issue no matter how you look at it.

  • 2,915
    BR
    Voted Sad
    05/03/2022

    For some strange reason my comment was posted but no longer. So here it goes again. 

    Despite anyone's stand on abortion laws, at this juncture, the leaked SCOTUS document is the predominant issue at hand. All measures should be taken to identify the person(s) involved and prosecuted to the fullest extent. 

  • 947
    Brenda
    Voted Excited
    05/04/2022

    If the Constitution does not mention abortion rights, then the Supreme Court must let the abortion rights be decided on the state level. 

  • 882
    Guy
    Voted Apathetic
    05/04/2022

    This is not what America wants.  I hope it does not happen.

  • 340
    Bill
    Voted Happy
    05/05/2022

    I am opposed to a nationwide ban on unlimited abortions but am totally supportive of the SCOTUS draft decision to place abortion regulation (or no regulation) exactly where it Constitutionally belongs....under the authority of the individual states as directed by the voters of each state.

  • 13.3k
    MrGeer
    Voted Angry
    05/03/2022

    Conservative voters don't realize the slippery slope they are rooting for. If I need a kidney, should the state have the power to force you to give it to me under penalty of law?

    Preventing women and girls from accessing an abortion does not mean they stop needing one. That’s why attempts to ban or restrict abortions do nothing to reduce the number of abortions, it only forces people to seek out unsafe abortions.

    this is an obvious way to keep women poor, and as 2nd class citizens.

    Forcing someone to carry on an unwanted pregnancy, or forcing them to seek out an unsafe abortion, is a violation of their human rights, including the rights to privacy and bodily autonomy.   

  • 3,455
    Surender
    05/03/2022

    An egregious leak!? Hell no AN EGREGIOUS BETRAYAL is what this is. 

    first gorsuch & kavanaugh need to be off the bench for lying under oath during selection hearings

    their agenda, tactics, lies, obfuscations, intent, plotting are all clearly evident

    women of america you have a choice to make! 2022 elections are going to decide you AND this country's future

    fence sitters time to get on the right side of history 

    Shame on congress

    shame on scotus ... 13 & term limits NOW

  • 663
    Carolyn
    Voted Excited
    05/03/2022

    Abortion is the greatest human rights violation of my lifetime. Though I wish that abortion would be made illegal at least this is a start and puts the issue back into the hands of the states. 

  • 557
    Bullmom
    Voted Apathetic
    05/03/2022

    There have been issues how this law was written - but all of you will be screaming about how this takes away YOUR right as a woman - my body my choice stuff - but it isn't just your body or just your choice - there is a fetus/baby and in most cases a father involved

    And once again there are a plethora of birth control choices along with condoms and the morning after pill so not sure why abortion remains such a "popular" choice - and frankly more concerned re no time limits re abortion including Roe vs Wade - at a certain point that child is moving and is viable outside the womb and for sure that's NOT just your body 

    The states can decide but scream away and very concerned re someone LEAKING the decision - that is very uncool - but of course she/he/it will be praised to the nth degree

    Wonder how you'd all feel if your mother made the choice to abort - oh, right, you wouldn't be here

  • 400
    ChoateRB
    Voted Happy
    05/05/2022

    Roe was written poorly and this issue is not supported in the Constitution. It belongs to the States to decide.

  • 1,008
    Harry
    Voted Happy
    05/11/2022

    There are legal scholars and political scowlers, the Supreme Court with Roe v Wade did create a "right" not enumerated in the Constitution and thus reserved to the States and their legislatures.

    Justice Alito's majority opinion if issued will simply restore the issue back into the hands of individual States, which is where it belongs.

     

    Senators and Congresspeople should not support any efforts to Federalize, allow the states to work it out.

  • 254
    Robert
    05/09/2022

    The Roe draft will cause an increase in rape and domestic violence as bad men will feel empowered to control women just like racists feld empowered by Donald J. Trump.  

  • 254
    Robert
    05/09/2022

    Women's rights are being taken away.  The person who leaked the draft is our hero!

     

  • 7,796
    PLZ
    Voted Excited
    05/09/2022

    While I don't care what a woman does with her body, I wholeheartedly don't agree to KILLING an innocent fetus especially up and until birth.  
    I also do not want to TAXPAYERS to pay for someone recklessness.  I can understand if the pregnancy was the result of being raped or incest, but just because people are so careless, is beyond me.  There are many forms of birth control and also the morning after pill.  This should not be up for debate. 

  • 620
    Mariann
    Voted Angry
    05/08/2022

    Republicans continue in their racist quest to deny hard earned rights to American people. Abortion rights are on deck to be stripped away suddenly. Women will be bound by the success on the religious beliefs of Republicans.

    our democracy is being broken and eliminated in favor of the authorianism choice of governing by Republicans.

    They are enslaving many black,brown and poor women and forcing pregnancy upon them as dictated by the federal government's reach into personal,medical and intimate decisions about a woman's right to have control of her body.

    It is disgraceful!!

  • 3,460
    MaryA
    05/08/2022

    Gee jimK, you sound so smart.  You know what sounds so Federalist these days?  The Democratic Party.  They want to rule everything.  Nobody else's opinion matters if they don't agree with them. If you don't agree with them they dox you, cancel you, assault you physically or verbally.  They seem to want to be in charge of everything in this country and to hell with anyone else.  A Federalist Party: favors a strong centralized government and the Democratic Party wants to be that centralized government.  You always seem to have all the leaker activists who sneaks around in all our government institutions breaking laws or protocols and gets away with it because you make it look like something devious is going on to make the other side look bad when your the ones doing exactly what your accusing the other side of doing.  No longer is this a society of civil liberties given by law to all citizens.  Because if you don't like the laws you tear the system down.  If the Supreme Court does end up deciding on this rule, which isn't final yet, it implies they want to give the decision of abortion to the states.  If you don't like the rules of the state you have the opportunity to vote people in or out.  There are plenty of states run by democrats.  Unfortunately I'm in one.  I doubt that ALL the states will subordinate it's power to a central authority.  Hence, becoming a Federalist Party.  And just like you, I don't want an all Democratic Party any more than you not wanting an all Republican Party.  This country is pretty much split in half.  And right now the Supreme Court has the majority of conservative judges.  But they don't always vote that way.  But liberals pretty much do.  Because your always so desperately hungry for power more than anything, it won't be long before you stack the court to get your own way.  Democrats have changed this country so far left your not for the people anymore.  This country has lost its morals, respect and patriotism.  You say it's taking us out of the dark ages or from shameful times in our history.  That is true to a point.  But when you have people pitting people against each other, riots burning down people homes and business, Murdering and beating people on our streets and letting them get away with it, teaching grammar school children sex education of all sexes instead of there parents parenting them and let them have there innocence for as long as they can, or indoctrinating them with CRT, telling them if your white your inherently a racist and if your of color you'll always be the underdog and won't have what the white person has.  A lot of our children are coming out of school with no respect for others.  They won't listen to opinions.  They have a chip on there shoulders like everyone owes them a living.  They want to start at the top with position and the money.  There selfish know it alls and there ignorant, not really knowing what there talking about.  Now I'm not saying there all like this.  But you see a lot of this in college students protesting over everything.  You use to go to college to get ideas and listen to different opinions.  But not any more.  They Won't listen to other opinions and don't peacefully protest and will physically fight you over it.  Which is the kind of people I see now tearing down our institutions.  And Democrat politicians want there socialist agendas pushed through so they cover for them.  To hell with the rules and laws of those institutions.  We have two main parties in this country.  Right now unfortunately it's under democratic rule.  You can tell because they raised the cost of living and blamed republicans.  They took away our energy independence and left us dependent on our enemies.  So gas goes up and they blame it on greedy oil companies or Russia.  They complain wages aren't high enough.  Then when people get a raise they flood the economy with trillions and cause inflation and blame republicans.  They got 13 of our military murdered with the withdrawal from Afghanistan stating he had to do it because it was Trumps deadline and tried again to blame republicans.  Millions of people crossing our now open border recieving medical educational and housing benefits raising the cost of all these services that we indirectly pay for.  Democrats play down this disaster and say these poor people have the right because of there root causes.  And blame republicans for being heartless.  But Ukraine people are being slaughtered and they have to have paper work and know someone here to get in.  Now on the 22nd or 23rd the COVID policy to stop people from coming into the country with COVID will be lifted, again flooding even more over the border and once again blaming republicans as it was the Trump administration that made that policy. They mandated everything so much and for so long that people lost there business and professions.  Now there's so many openings for jobs and no one wants them.  Some don't want to go back to work they've been out for so long.  Some found a different way to make a living.  Maybe some living off the money they got from the government to stay a float and two and three times the unemployment and/or didn't have to pay rent.  There's a lot of reasons.  But one thing is for sure, the economy is ruined.  We're in an inflation and heading for a recession.  Things have really changed drastically since democrats have been in power.  Life really got better didn't it?  Oh but I forgot ... it's republicans fault.  Or it's Trump's fault.  Or it's still from COVID.  Or it's Russia's fault.  It's always someone else's fault.  Now it's the Supreme Court.  You want to know why abortion is such a hot topic.  It's because of democrats.  Always taking things to the extreme.  It wasn't enough to get an abortion after 13 weeks.  But then things like partial birth abortions and abortions at birth came along.  Disgusting!  And if you don't think so, your disgusting.  It's because people are more concerned about there own selfish life than that of a full grown baby.  Except in case of the life of the mother, medical problems and rape or incest, then do it as early as possible.  Which is how most reasonable people think.  In this day and age nobody not knows about all the conterceptions.  And if they don't then teach that in school after 10 years old in what we use to call health class.  If that's not enough because of coarse the poor can't afford them then protest for policies to give conterceptives to the poor.  Kinda like giving out needles to druggies.  And if that's still not enough then keep your damn legs crossed!!!

  • 882
    Guy
    Voted Apathetic
    05/07/2022

    It is a draft opinion and nothing less.

    put the leaker in jail as this is the larger problem here.

    Dems will politicize, but they either done care to condem the action or made it happen to help them change the narrative away from their utter failures.

  • 3,869
    John
    Voted Angry
    05/07/2022

    I think we should pass a law to make anti-abortion activist adopt children, after all they're interfering with other people's lives so how about we interfere with their lives. Or they can put their beliefs or their money and their mouth is which lol never do because there's just a pile of bullshit who want to Manipulate and control othe peoples lives.

  • 367
    Jahna
    Voted Angry
    05/06/2022

    This possible ruling striking down Roe V. Wade is appalling!  If this happens, abortion won't be the first privacy right to be struck down.  We won't go back! 

  • 230
    Gina
    Voted Angry
    05/07/2022

    I cannot believe that this country is going backwards as far as bodily autonomy is concerned.  This heinous act will cause death and destruction.  

  • 75
    Myk
    Voted Angry
    05/06/2022

    The right to abortion is a fundamental right for women to decide what they want to do with their bodies. It is an economic issue for all of us. Please work hard to codify a woman's right to choose.

  • 3,455
    Surender
    05/07/2022

    After draft abortion leak, Justice Thomas says Supreme Court can’t be ‘bullied’

    will someone tell this pseudo he carries zero credibilty so go to the back of the bench and stay quiet as you did for decades

    no one is bullying ... simply a manifestation of a self sullied court 

    roberts should direct his frustrations at his own court and come clean on the plotting behind the scenes readying for the moment when they can strike as a majority with roberts joining the minority to make it look clean! Yea we ain't dummies. we can smell a rat in the scum infested right wing as the stench is now simply unbearable 

    its now up to women to show in 2022 where this country is headed

     

  • 762
    Mindfulness
    Voted Angry
    05/07/2022

    Forewarned! Think of "interracial marriage", "Same Sex Marriage",  "Contraception"...and more. 

  • 2,206
    wpeckham
    Voted Angry
    05/06/2022

    I have read the draft, and the decision on Roe vs Wade, and the contitutional grounds for RvW is strong while this draft is far weaker, and depends upon reinterpreting the intent of the founders as being quite different than the text of the document.  If the decision is as indicated, I only hope that the actual decision is reworded to be based upon different arguments that do not shred the constitution and the rule of law. Even if it does stand, Congress needs to act to properly reflect the will of the people (who overwhelmingly support the right to abortion) and the constitution by enacting Federal law protect the right to normal womans and reproductive health services and abortion. 

  • 290
    Elyce M.
    Voted Angry
    05/05/2022

    This basically revokes women's right to privacy. Yet the GOP complaines that the Court's right to privacy was violated by the leak! I find that hypocritical or perhaps only certain entities have a right to privacy now?!? This will only stop safe abortions.

    This isn't about life..:it's about controlling women & their right to control their bodies; a right men enjoy!

    Why did a health issue become a political issue?!?

    Kicking this back to the States basically means those States that have or plan to restrict this health care for women is allowing basically male minorities in their legislatures to decide what the female majorities want & the voters aren't even allowing them to vote in it!  Find that totally inappropriate & unacceptable!

    Thenk you for listening. 😷👍

  • 43
    Lindsay
    Voted Angry
    05/05/2022

    Woman need to be able to have the healthcare they deserve. That includes reproductive rights. Before legalizing abortion, woman went to extremes and many lost their lives to obtain the care they needed. Reproductive rights are pro life, they protect the women that are carrying a fetus. They give her the freedom to make healthy, appropriate decisions that will suite her best. This should not be a choice made by others but a choice of the woman carrying that fetus. Such a weighted decision should be made by her, without the worry of being sued or incarcerated. 

    Side note: religion should never be associated with law. Inserting religion into law is unconstitutional. 

  • 83
    Carol
    Voted Angry
    05/05/2022

    Supporters of privacy and a woman's right to choose worked over 50 years ago to secure these freedoms. It's been a long-term struggle ever since. The recent SCOTUS draft ruling is not based on science but religious beliefs, and should not be considered a so-called freedom in a democratic republic. Not only did Justice Alito cite a source who in a previous century was a proponent of burning witches, the Justice falsely claims other rights are not at stake when Roe is inevitably overturned--not true. The Republican-appointed justices all lied in their Senate confirmation hearings when asked about precedent and we knew it. If Senator Collins did not, she should not be in office. That leads to Mitch McConnell, the ruthless hypocrite, who vowed to block President Obama's SCOTUS nominees (and Clinton's if she was elected) and proceeded to hold one nominee (Garland) a year before the 2016 election. Later, Mitch did not hesitate to rush to confirm, not one, but three of the Federalist Society's (via Trump) offerings; one was just weeks before the 2020 election. The Republican machine has worked to repeal Roe for many decades and now they've caught the proverbial car. (Please remember these same anti-choice zealots do not care one iota about babies/children post-birth.) No rejoicing in their victory though, because they know 70% of Americans do not want to give up our rights to privacy. The leak is a perfect distraction from the GOP horror that is pending for all of us. Protest, call your 3 representative in Congress, donate and vote! Elections and lust for power over women indeed have severe consequences.

  • 52
    Peter
    Voted Apathetic
    05/05/2022

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The founders knew that not everything was in the Cositution so they provided the People several means to modify it.

    Congressional laws, President executive orders, State laws and Governor's executive orders are designed to be flexible for the moment. And sometimes bad laws are made.

    The Consitution was designed to be the governing principles that is the foundation of our government.

    I think as a people we need to decide what "ourselves and our Posterity" means and should admend the Consitution to reflect that.

     

  • 118
    Gary
    Voted Angry
    05/06/2022

    Chief "justice??" John Roberts claims to be appalled by the leak of "justice??" Alito's draft opinion regarding Roe v Wade.  It is my hope that one of my representatives will share my opinion directly with all of the conservative "justices???" On the Supreme Court.  I, as well as the overwhelming majority of Americans, am appalled and disgusted with the politically aligned court and no longer have any faith in a failed court to issue fair and equitable decisions.  Why?  First and foremost, you have failed to uphold 50 years of failed contests of Roe v Wade and prior Supreme Court decisions.  You have determined that a woman has no right to control her own body and that a state legislature, which I might remind you, is predominantly male controlled.  In my opinion each of the last three Republican appointees to the court perjured themselves under oath during their confirmation hearing regarding their position on Roe v. Wade.  They already new how they would vote or rule and blatantly lied in order to secure confirmation and a lifetime appointment to the court.  They are no better than politicians or con men/women who will lie through their teeth to get what they want.  This potential ruling flies in the face of what is supposed to be a clear separation of Church and State and it is clearly evident that this potential ruling is done to satisfy anti abortion religious groups and right wing Christian and evangelicals, thus securing their votes for the Republican Party.  In other words, it is a purely political decision.  No justice Roberts, I no longer have an iota of faith in the less than Supreme Court and their collective non political alignments.  Just a bunch of politial hacks wearing black robes who are beholding to those that nominate them and will say anything to secure their lifetime appointment. Appropriate robe color as black is the color of mourning and for me, this is the death of a neutral Supreme Court who decide on merit as opposed to political alignments.  I wonder how gun control issues under the second amendment escape similar scrutiny.  When the second amendment was written, we were a new born nation with no standing army, police force or national guard.  Defense of this country and one's property  against foreign nations, criminals (like politicians) and native American's (whose land we were stealing hand over fist) was left to individuals and or malitias.  Those circumstances no longer exist yet you fail to interpret the constitution and bill of rights in favor of gun control.  If I were a woman, forced to bear a child to birth, against my will, I would deliver that child to a conservative justice or pro life legislator for them to raise, care for, provide food, shelter, health care and education costs for the rest of that child's life.  You are allowing States to directly control abortion and a woman's control over HER body but no one can force that woman to bear the expense, mental, physical, emotional and financial burdens associated with an unwanted pregnancy.  I wonder, should we pass laws allowing a woman to demand her spouse have a vasectomy in order to avoid unwanted pregnancy? If the husband refuses, should he be fined and threatened with imprisonment?  No mr. Chief "justice??"  I challenge your right to be appalled! As it is we, the overwhelming majority of Americans who should be appalled at the decision of the court, draft or no draft, and the clear perjury of justices under oath regarding their real belief and position.  You are all the best argument for term limitations on the Supreme Court and removal provisions for failing to be anything more or less than a political hack.  Again, it is my most sincere hope that one or all of my elected representatives will share this opinion verbatim with the Supreme Court, but, frankly, I won't hold my breath.

  • 1,529
    Richard
    Voted Angry
    05/06/2022

    Our current SCOTUS are useless Trump Puppets since the Trumpers have the majority.  Thanks to crooked Mitch McConnell who ignored the citizens and supported his daddy, Trump, by improperly holding off the nomimination of a truely qualified potential judge for the SCOTUS.  We have a mess for years to come.  And the Trumpers on the SCOTUS are not Constiutional experts as they proclaim.