Civic Register
| 12.1.21

Supreme Court Hears Arguments in Mississippi Abortion Case
Do you support or oppose the Mississippi abortion law?
What’s the story?
- The Supreme Court on Wednesday heard oral arguments in a case involving Mississippi’s law banning abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, which may result in the most significant change to the Court’s abortion precedents in decades. A decision in the case will likely be reached before the end of June 2022.
- Known as Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, the case concerns Mississippi’s ban on elective abortions more than 15 weeks into pregnancy except in cases of medical emergencies and severe fetal abnormalities. Mississippi enacted the Gestational Age Act in 2018, although a district court judge blocked it shortly thereafter and appeals have been unsuccessful to date. When the justices took up the case, they decided that the Court will consider: “Whether all pre-viability prohibitions on elective abortions are unconstitutional.”
- While oral arguments don’t always indicate how a justice will vote on a case, the questions they pose to the lawyers during the arguments can illustrate how they view the case and where they will ultimately come down on the issue at hand. On Wednesday, five of the Court’s conservatives seemed to signal a willingness to uphold Mississippi’s law, potentially by addressing Roe and Casey, while Chief Justice John Roberts seemed inclined to find middle ground, and the three liberal justices want to reject the Mississippi law and uphold existing precedents. If Roe is overturned, the issue of abortion policy would be returned to states.
What were the main points during oral arguments?
- The state of Mississippi argued that the Court’s current viability standard is arbitrary and should be changed to a 15 week cutoff point for most elective abortions. Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart added that the enactment of safe haven laws by all 50 states, which let a parent forfeit parental responsibility for their newborn and allow adoption, in addition to the availability of contraception provide viable alternatives to the need for abortion access as a means of avoiding parental burdens.
- U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar argued on behalf of the Biden administration and Julie Rikelman argued as an attorney representing the Center for Reproductive Rights. Both opposed the Mississippi law and urged the justices to uphold the current viability standard under existing precedent, contending that a ruling rolling back abortion rights would deprive a pregnant woman of her liberty to not carry a fetus to term
- Supreme Court abortion precedent moved from a trimester standard under Roe to a viability standard under Casey. The viability threshold for a fetus has changed as technology has improved from 28 weeks to 24 weeks, which is the generally accepted threshold at present although some infants have survived recently after being born as early as 21 weeks. Another key issue presented was the doctrine of stare decisis ― the concept letting past precedent stand unless there is a compelling reason for it to be overturned.
- Chief Justice John Roberts seemed to probe whether it would be possible to uphold the 15 week ban and move away from the viability standard without overturning Roe and Casey entirely. However, the counsel for both sides of the argument seemed to indicate that wouldn’t be tenable.
- Roberts also noted, “when you get to the viability standard, we share that standard with countries like the People’s Republic of China and North Korea” and that a standard of restricting abortions after 15 weeks is more in line with the vast majority of other countries. The U.S. is one of seven countries to allow abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.
- Justice Amy Coney Barrett seemed sympathetic to Stewart’s argument enactment of safe haven laws in conjunction with the availability of contraception may provide a reasonable alternative to abortion access after 15 weeks.
- The Court’s three liberal justices seemed to agree with arguments made on behalf of the abortion providers and the Biden administration in favor of upholding current precedents. Justice Stephen Breyer said that the problem with a “watershed case” like this that may affect Roe and Casey is that “when people are really opposed on both sides and they really fight each other, is they’re going to be ready to say, no, you’re just political, you’re just politicians. And that’s what kills us as an American institution.” Justice Sonia Sotomayor similarly questioned whether the Supreme Court’s legitimacy could be maintained if Roe and Casey are overturned:
“Will this institution survive the stench that this creates in the public perception that the Constitution and its reading are just political acts? I don’t see how it is possible.”
- Justice Samuel Alito noted that the Court has looked past stare decisis to overturn past precedents when they’re later found to be “egregiously wrong” and unconstitutional, such as in Plessy v. Ferguson, a unanimous 1896 ruling which upheld racial segregation in “separate but equal accommodations” which was relied upon by the Court in relevant cases until it was unanimously overturned in 1954 by Brown v. Board of Education, Topeka, Kansas. In response to Alito’s question as to whether Plessy should have been overturned immediately, Prelogar said that while Plessy was wrong, the Court should only have overturned with “extensive consideration.”
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh noted that if Mississippi were to prevail, states “could and presumably would continue to freely allow abortion,” which would allow the interests of mothers and the unborn in abortion law to be adjudicated legally and politically at the state level.
What are the relevant precedents?
- The case concerns one of the Court’s most well-known abortion decisions, which came in a case known as Roe v. Wade (1973). In Roe, the Court held that the Constitution protects a woman’s right to terminate her pregnancy. The Court held that the 14th Amendment protected personal privacy rights, including a woman’s decision about whether to carry the pregnancy to term and that only compelling state interests can justify limitations on that decision. It held that the state’s interest in protecting the mother’s health begins at the end of the first trimester, and its interest in protecting the fetus begins at the point of viability.
- Another relevant precedent comes from Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), which overturned the trimester standard in Roe in favor of a viability standard, allowing states to adopt restrictions on first-trimester abortions so long as they don’t unduly burden a woman’s efforts to obtain an abortion before the fetus reaches viability. It reaffirmed Roe in three ways: a woman has a right to an abortion prior to viability; the state can restrict post-viability abortions as long as there are exceptions for the woman’s health; and that the state has legitimate interests in protecting the woman’s health and the life of the fetus. These findings resulted in Pennsylvania’s 24-hour waiting period, informed consent, parental notification, and record-keeping requirements being upheld; and the state’s spousal notification requirement being struck down.
- The most recent significant Supreme Court decision related to abortion came in Whole Women’s Health v. Hellerstedt (2016). It invalidated Texas laws that required abortion-providing physicians to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals, and that their abortion facility meet the same standards as an ambulatory surgical center. The Court found that those requirements created an undue burden for abortion access, in violation of the standards it outlined in Casey.
— Eric Revell
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I believe it is immoral to force women to birth babies they do not want for what ever reason including rape, financial situation, health of the mother, health of the fetus, or number of children. Forced birth is violence against women.
Not their beeswax! It is private family business.
The Roberts court is simply an extension of the Republican Party, the party of DT! Most of these justice’s lied during their conformation hearings about not overturning Roe v Wade. Finally, the last appointed jurist has a direct conflict; her religion prevents her from voting to keep Roe v Wade, whereas the law supports R v W under "a doctrine of stare decisis.” She must vote against R v W, a clear conflict of interest. This makes her a member of the group who make the policy as an extension of the Congress.
Establishing laws based on religion is constitutionally prohibited in this country.
Abortion is murder.
Leave this alone! Who are the minority of leaders that need to waste our tax dollars and time trying to overturn something that clearly the majority does not favor?
You already know how I see this..............move to China if you want abortion to be government business. Just remember that their government only aborts FEMALE BABIES. Yes, that is correct, only the girls.
How could abortion still be an issue when the morning after pill is available? Support our 15 week abortion ban because everyone deserves life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I support this Mississippi law
If all these "supposed " "PRO LIFERS" TRULY ARE THEN They would all get vaccinate, support the repeal of the death penalty, support all aspects of child rearing ,including going after dead beat fathers!
Totally support
It's pretty tough to support virtually anything that comes out of Mississippi. How many lynchings did they attend? How many civil rights workers did they murder? When was the last Klan meeting they attended? UGH! No redemption for that place! Terrible people attempting to write addition terrible history!
Republicans are trying to take everyone’s rights. Especially women. They gerrymander to keep anyone from winning but them. They have put restrictive voting laws in place to control the outcome of elections by selecting who gets to vote. They have even put in place the ability to overturn elections they don’t agree with the outcome. The Heritage Foundation is deeply in the pockets of politicians.
I oppose all abortion bans and restrictions on abortion etc except for abortion survivors protection laws and I support state health insurance funds for abortion coverage and rights etc
I oppose it only on the basis of its political implications. If this is put to a vote and wins the support of the people of Miss. then let them have it.
Ultimately this boils down to viability. 15 weeks should not be conflated with viability. Viability is defined as working successfully; the capability to live. The law pertains to individual persons. It does not pertain to a fetus that is not viable of it’s own accord and workings. A fetus in an incubator is not a viable individual. We cannot conflate artificial intelligence and technology that mimics that of a womb, with an individual person who is claimed to be autonomous under the law. Artificially alive through technological advances as a direct result of forced or compelled labor or delivery, duress, without prior consent does not equate to individual person under the law. That is not the intent of the law.
The Church is separate from the State. Religion is separate from Politics. Republicans continuously talk about individual freedom yet are willing to take away freedoms that have existed for fifty years from women. Republicans feel that it is personal freedom to choose not to be vaccinated despite the fact that unvaccinated people can and do kill each other and immunocompromised people by presuming that they are free to do so. Republicans repeal gun restrictions whenever they are legislated because they feel people are free to risk the lives of others from those who would use those freedoms irresponsibly. Republicans are willing to take away the rights of the electorate to freely vote and have their votes fairly counted by poll restrictions, intimidating poll watchers, inserting political operatives into the processes, gerrymandering and all the rest. I am sick of their self-serving hypocrisy whenever they can exploit the situation and their talking out of both sides of their faces. … … … The Supreme Court Justices are playing with fire if they overturn Roe - I don’t care what bull crap arguments that they may come up with. They cannot overturn an established fifty year precedent because the Federalist Society does not like it. Make no mistake, religion is only an excuse for a policy that keeps the poorest amongst us from getting legal abortions in order to keep the working class procreating which keeps them living pay-check to pay-check and struggling - unable to get out from under employer dominance. This assures that there will be enough workers that they can continue to dominate - a modern day serfdom. The wealthy will still be able to find abortion medical care because, by Republican standards, they are above the laws enacted for everyone else. … … … In one sense, I hope the Senate does eliminate Roe, because the Democrats will sweep the midterms and beyond - and with a dominate Democratic Party we can began to fix the people’s lack of representation on the Supreme Court and nullify the Republican Cartel’s grip on unearned political power. I want the Republican Cartel voted into extinction so that an honorable conservative political party can rise from the ashes - one that has a political platform, that governs for the people of this country and not just their benefactors nor just for their rabid base, that deals with facts and not willful disinformation, that has ethics and morals and acts honorably for the people instead of themselves. … … …
One more way to keep women from being empowered and to keep them marginalized.
The Mississippi law is obviously unconstitutional and does not follow established legal precedent. It must be struck down!
The Supreme Court shall not try to change a waiver and Roe be Wade never shall we ever seek such and make lawlessness become the norm as we seen throughout our nation and the following should be taken up as well and should be the topic of our Congress state representatives along side with the highest court of the land and lower chords this should be the biggest con Barry condemning laws to take place. The nations Laws can’t be for lawlessness as all whom feel others don’t do equally to the laws all Fedral laws States Laws shall be universal in unity never to be corruptible it shall of true balance equal must be enforced at all levels the same never ever wavering!!! !!! Our Highest to lowest Courts shall be in step sakes as All DA’s must enforce as all same constitutionally sought not being of favor of Lenientcy of any type or wavering towards weakness ever again the full extent of organized crimes health be dispended condemned and further action nationally and internationally strengthen the laws that should be!!!