IT: 🧫 Debrief on the Delta variant, and... Should we lower the age to purchase handguns?

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  • 32
    George
    07/20/2021

    Lower the age, you can vote and serve your country at 18. People that say that your still a child and their brains are still developing are clearly morons, when you’re 18 you’re grown and an adult. Therefore you should be able to defend yourself. No but’s or what if’s about it.

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    John
    07/17/2021

    I think Republicans should back up there miles by allowing people who come into a Republican conventions to be armed to the teeth. It’s what the republican party once it’s what they should get but somehow they don’t want it when it comes to that! It’s not hard to figure out why they don’t care of people get killed they just care if they get killed.

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    Diana
    07/17/2021

    Keep the purchase of guns right where they are. Service people are taught how to use their weapons.

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    larubia
    07/15/2021

    Pro life crowd: “Lower the gun age.” “Delta variant, shmelta variant, I’m still not getting a vaccine. “ The rest of us: “Huh?” (tilting our head to the side because we know what the data/experts say). Other countries: “Dumb ass Americans!”

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    Michael
    07/16/2021

    The Delta variant needs to be taken serious and the unvaccinated need to get vaccinated in order for us to curb Covid-19 and end the pandemic. We need to accept the science for what it is. And we need to address the gun violence our country is facing right now before we even think about giving more people access to guns. The NRA is just foaming at the mouth right now.

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    Kathi
    07/15/2021

    We will be dealing with this virus, in one form or another, for a very long time, due to the initial mishandling, the politization of what is actually a health issue, and rampant stupidity. As to the age for buying a gun, make it 100 or 150, when maybe people will be too feeble to commit mass murder.

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    Pat
    07/15/2021

    Too bad about the Delta variant of Covid. I suspect it’ll be going on for awhile. I’m against shutting down again for it. We’ve got a vaccine and better initial treatments now so everyone should do their best to stay healthy. But, it should be up to the individual. I am vaccinated; I had two friends die with it earlier and I didn’t want to take unnecessary chances. But To each his own; that includes consequences.

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    Pat
    07/15/2021

    Raise the age to buy guns and pass more gun control laws and I’d bet a lot of money that the murders and mass shootings decrease significantly.

  • 74
    Jean
    07/16/2021

    Do not lower the age to purchase a gun? That is crazy!

  • 128
    Wallace
    07/15/2021

    No!!!! Don’t lower the age to purchase handguns!!!!!!

  • 440
    Freethinker
    07/15/2021

    Larubia - your tactic can be used on both sides! Nice try though! Dem crowd: “Cubans don’t immigrate here it’s too dangerous!” “We praise Texas Democrats for leaving!” The non-brainwashed crowd: “I thought dems were pro-immigration and pro-asylum seekers?” “Wait did the Texas dems just pull a filibuster? I thought dems are now against protecting the minority in congress and wanted to get rid of this?” Other countries: “Wait you want the UN to investigate racism in the USA when we have human rights being attacked like China and Cuba?! These dumb spoiled Americans have no idea what oppression is!!”

  • 59
    Richard
    07/15/2021

    The more credible information we have on the Delta variant, the better. We should not lower the age for legally owning a handgun. Has anyone who supports this idea been paying ANY attention to the epidemic of school shootings?!

  • 260
    Terry
    07/15/2021

    Absolutely ludicrous idea.

  • 58
    Colleen
    07/15/2021

    Do not lower the age to buy handguns! A child’s brain doesn’t fully mature until in their 20’s! That’s what we need isn’t it ? Deadly weapons in the hands of those who don’t have the judgment to know how to use them properly

  • 388
    Sharon
    07/15/2021

    UPDATED: This is a new report stemming from purported documents leaked from the Kremlin and related to claims that Putin and Russia had an interest in and meddled in the 2016 election to get Trump elected as President. The Guardian is represented to be an independent investigative news organization. In reading this report, please note the lack of information about how these documents were obtained and verified. That may be for the protection of sources in the Russia of today that is exceedingly dangerous for anyone who expresses dissension about anything. Nonetheless, this report should not be taken as absolute truth. Reported in the British The Guardian today: “Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents. The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present. They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position. Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature. By this point Trump was the frontrunner in the Republican party’s nomination race. A report prepared by Putin’s expert department recommended Moscow use “all possible force” to ensure a Trump victory. Western intelligence agencies are understood to have been aware of the documents for some months and to have carefully examined them. The papers, seen by the Guardian, seem to represent a serious and highly unusual leak from within the Kremlin. The Guardian has shown the documents to independent experts who say they appear to be genuine. Incidental details come across as accurate. The overall tone and thrust is said to be consistent with Kremlin security thinking. The Kremlin responded dismissively. Putin’s spokesman Dmitri Peskov said the idea that Russian leaders had met and agreed to support Trump in at the meeting in early 2016 was “a great pulp fiction” when contacted by the Guardian on Thursday morning. The report – “No 32-04 \ vd” – is classified as secret. It says Trump is the “most promising candidate” from the Kremlin’s point of view. The word in Russian is perspektivny. There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”. There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”. The paper refers to “certain events” that happened during Trump’s trips to Moscow. Security council members are invited to find details in appendix five, at paragraph five, the document states. It is unclear what the appendix contains. “It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says. This would help bring about Russia’s favoured “theoretical political scenario”. A Trump win “will definitely lead to the destabilisation of the US’s sociopolitical system” and see hidden discontent burst into the open, it predicts.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

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    Azrael
    07/15/2021

    Repeat questions so I’ll just post today’s grievance Man the phones, email, text, TikTok Facebook, Instagram -whatever form you can use to get the messages out Boycott Tennessee and all its businesses-I’m old enough to have had relatives with polio-not providing info or vaccines for children should be a criminal offense Child abuse Contact every elected official-Dejoy needs to be removed from the post office Help get the word out-the vaccines work get vaccinated If not for yourself for others that physically/medically cannot 10 children on ventilators in Mississippi? Wtf Sacrificing your child to own the libs? You need more than vaccines. You need to be treated for some serious mental health issues Guy thumping a Bible while flying in a private jet is not a Christian He’s a run of the mill con man taking your money All gods in all religions can hear you talking to them from the safety of your own home and it doesn’t cost you a dime Try it All prayers are answered Unfortunately sometimes the answer is no

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    Robert
    07/15/2021

    Only low information individuals would believe Fauci or the NHI anymore. He has flip-flopped so much he doesn’t know which side he is on. At 17 I enlisted (with parents consent) I turned 18 in the jungle. A person who is willing to do the job of protecting this nation deserves the right to protect themselves. You may not agree with the ruling, but the constitution must be followed.

  • 1,034
    Warren
    07/15/2021

    No don’t lower the age

  • 237
    Annamarie
    07/15/2021

    To be clear, I’m not against vaccination, but as a healthcare worker I have the utmost respect people’s control over their own health and bodies. I am really sick of the blue dog Dems blaming unvaccinated people for possible future outbreaks with the new delta variant (also, contrary to what establishment Dems believe, I’m not a Republican and not everyone who criticizes Dems is a Republican). The only study, that I’m aware of, that’s been conducted on delta infection rate for Pfizer vaccinated people has shown only a 64% rate of protection from infection. This study has been preliminary, but the studies looking at hospitalization and death rates resulting from Delta infections amongst vaccinated people are only preliminary as well. When an estimated 36% of vaccinated people can still get infected and potentially be COVID spreaders, you can’t blame unvaccinated people for the disease transmission. The delta strain is highly transmissible, and it requires a lot less infected people (vaccinated or not) to transmit this strain. Vaccinated people can become infected with the delta variant and all other variants, and therefore vaccination alone is not preventing mutations. Vaccinated people’s bodies will provide a playground for the virus to mutate in, just like unvaccinated bodies. It’s thought that infection rates will be lower in vaccinated people, but that’s only hypothesized right now. Finally, according to WHO, we still don’t know how well vaccines prevent transmission. The standards for emergency AUTH are and always have been only reducing infection by 50% to be considered a “high efficacy”. If, hypothetically, you are only reducing infection rates by 50% in vaccinated people, then the other 50% of vaccinated people can still theoretically provide a playground for the virus to mutate in. Stop blaming unvaccinated people for transmission and mutation. It’s unfounded, the research doesn’t actually support it once you move past the pro pharma propaganda, and if corporatist Dems “believe science” so much, they should look more closely.

  • 46
    Aden
    07/15/2021

    If 18 is old enough to carry weapons in the military, then it’s old enough to purchase a handgun. Lay off the Constitution…Enough!