Biden Moves Up Afghanistan Withdrawal Date From September 11th to August 31st

Check out the new docuseries, “Turning Point: 9/11 and the War on Terror” on Netflix. It is an expansive and detailed historical study about HOW & WHY we got to 9/11, with an almost complete history of WHEN & WHY Afghanistan became a focal point for the American government and the American people. This 5 episode series explains so much and in such detail, afterwards you’ll know EXACTLY WHY we left Afghanistan, and WHY we should have left much sooner than August of 2021! It’s ALL there. And it’s ALL the TRUTH! The main idea I got out of it is this: Never go to war without a clear exit strategy that leaves the invaded country better than you found it. NOT doing so will be catastrophic!

Moving it up is appropriate, because the withdrawal date was supposed to be May 1. Pres. Biden risked re-ignighting hostilities with the Taliban by not honoring the date which was already agreed. We have been sending soldiers and marines to Afghanistan who weren't even born yet on 9/11. That's disgraceful. Bring the troops home, the sooner the better.

The last time a Democrat President did this it didn't turn out well!

Yet another country the US invaded, toppled the government, descended into chaos, and then abandoned. When will we learn?

Welcome to the New South Vietnam equivalent, all on the Biden watch. It will not be pretty to watch the Taliban subjugate millions of educated Afghanistan women. Shoot the workers and troops of the current government. We gave the Afghanis a chance at freedom but that will need them to stand and fight a Taliban take over. Warlords may end up dividing Afghanistan into fiefdoms the people have suffered. In the wings is China which will want to secure it's borders from Islamic militancy and Orthodox y from spreading into their country.

CAUSES ASKS: "Do you think that the Afghanistan withdrawal timeline is appropriate?" ME: Maybe -- all depends on whether those Afghans who supported the US over this 20-year fiasco can be fully and safely evacuated.

This conflict will not end well with the U.S. in the middle of it. The Afghan People must decide what they want, a society for some of the people or all of the people. Clearly we need to do the same in this country too.

I think a better decision would have been to stop pandering to the military and the war machine, but the quicker we're out of there the smarter it is. These people are allowed to screw up or make a success of their own country. White people just do not know what's good for every single person and place on the planet!!!

Nothing wrong with the basic idea of pulling out - especially when one questions whether we should have stayed at all. The question is how it is implemented. This gives no time for those supporting us to get out - generally takes about 4yrs going through the immigration system. So any that supported us are doomed to persecution if one considers how fast things are crumbling. Just like 'nam in 75 - the troops lacked confidence in corrupt leadership so except for elite formations the military is in high rate of desertion with the bad guys gaining all that US hardware. So all the blood, funding and time there ends up wasted when it could have gone to much more productive things. Plus the long term drain for troops that have been there that now have issues. Then on top of that, put yourself in the eyes of the rest of the world - what nation or people will be confident enough to throw in with any future effort by the US if they feel they will eventually be left in the cold? So this will harm other diplomatic efforts elsewhere. I understand the POTUS view of not wanting troops in harm's way - but this should have had a secret deadline of 1 to 3 yrs from now to give time to get out those that worked for us. Again look at 'nam - we had most combat stuff out by 72, then were planning more while maintaining air and intel support. But the country rapidly collapsed from the beginning of 75 to our scramble to get everyone out.

I can find no legitimate reason for even being there, 20 yrs, billions of dollars and thousand of US lives to stop the spread of terrorism. We have solved nothing and they will return a secular government within 30 days of our departure. A wonderful waste of money and lives.

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Was the Real Mi$$ion in Afghanistan Finally Accomplished? Around the initial build-up of forces in Afghanistan, I recall listening to a Pacifica Radio station talk show relating the connection between the US' presence and the construction of a major oil pipeline. This made more sense than the appearance of a vaguely targeted bloody vengeance that was turning parts of Afghanistan into rubble. The caller further alleged that some of the bombings were to rough cut the pipeline. I did not follow up on this allegation until recently. Well, about 17 years later, construction finally began. Does this mean those allegations have been validated? I don't know. What do you know? What do you think? "In 2018, Afghanistan broke ground on the 1,127-mile-long Afghanistan oil pipeline that will connect the state of Punjab in northern India with the Galkynysh gas field in the desert in eastern Turkmenistan. Once energy starts to flow, the country of Afghanistan expects about $400 million a year in transit fees, partly offsetting some of the international aid that now props up the government. Given the Bush / Cheney initial involvement I recommend reading or recalling "The Shock Doctrine. " in a nutshell, "This centers on the exploitation of national crises (disasters or upheavals) to establish controversial and questionable policies, while citizens are too distracted (emotionally and physically) to engage and develop an adequate response, and resist effectively." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine?) "The United States is backing the pipeline, which will carry 33 billion cubic meters of gas per year, passing through five southern Afghan provinces — Herat, Farah, Nimruz, Helmand and Kandahar — that have been Taliban strongholds, and a major security concern. However, both the Taliban and Pakistan, a country believed to hold sway over the insurgent group, have pledged support. "At an estimated cost of US$10 billion, an Isle of Man-based holding company will oversee the project with Turkmengaz, a Turkmenistan state company. Turkmenistan officials have also said that they have received loans from Saudi Arabia’s Islamic Development Bank. The pipeline is expected to be completed by 2020." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Oil_Pipeline? So, one way or another we're "done" … for now. We'll see whether the precious pipeline protection plan is implemented. As always, follow the money.

Let’s aim for August 31. Since Murphy’s Law is likely to prevail, we may not get it done until 9/11/21.

Right on, Ruth! 👍🏻👏🏻❤️😊

As long as they don’t leave the translators and support people behind. The people that helped us while we were there need to come out with us or they will be killed. If we leave them we will never again be helped by any nation if a conflict arises. We need help from locals. We cannot abandon our allies!

Afghanistan, is a very complicated problem! The Afghanistan people have to supported their government and the Taliban control most of the rural area of the country even with US support! We as a nation can not continue to pour money and lives into this nation! Yes some people will die because the US is leaving, and the Taliban will most likely control this nation in the near future! But will the nations that are supporting them continue to support them, as there is no real reason to do so when the US leaves! Perhaps some other nation might even support some factions to keep the Taliban limited in what they can do!

Ohio Rep. Mike Turner, a senior Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, called the rapid redeployment of U.S. forces "more of a surrender than a withdrawal."; he backed Trump's decision to set a May 2021 deadline for withdrawal. But he believes Biden irresponsibly abandoned Afghan forces without warning. Someone please enlighten Dumb$#|¥ he had a good 4 yrs to do the same, obl was hiding in pak, its been 10 years of ‘redevelopment’ & training with a trillion $ spent ($25,000 for every man woman & child) where the gop begrudge even $2400 here during a pandemic? Just another blatant example of gop’s senseless obfuscation of facts and brain bereft meaningless utterances without solutions

There was no need to be I Afghanistan for this long to begin with. Take out Bin laden, then leave. Not remain there for a generation too keep the region unstable.

We owe a debt of thanks to the Afghan people. I hope Pres. Biden can move the people to safety. Before we leave. We have lost enough American lives overseas.

The biggest factor that I can see is whether or not those Afghans and their families to whom our country owes a debt or gratitude for risking their lives to support of our troops can be safely relocated to Guam and/or other holding sites soon enough to prevent their targeted executions by the Taliban. There is little information regarding the how and when of this, although their appears to be a lot of machinery churning in the background to make it happen. That is OK for now since we would not want to telegraph tactics before the relocations can begin. Biden has stated that he will get them to safety, and that will have to do, for now. He has honored or worked hard to honor all of his commitments so far with the only exceptions being those intentionally being blocked by Republican Faction’s war machine to defeat Democrats. I sincerely hope that enough of electorate wises up and votes them into oblivion so that a real Conservative party can form that actually wants to play fair, with honor, ethics, empathy, real principles, a steadfast platform of what they believe and actual well thought out ideas for moving our country forward and to resolve key issues on our county’s horizon.