IT: Derek Chauvin guilty on all counts

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    jimK
    04/22/2021

    targeted: please read what I wrote, think for just a moment, and look at what you claimed that I wrote. I never said that the FBI was systematically racist nor did I dispute any of the FBI statistics regarding conviction rates. There is a difference between conviction rates and crimes committed, since not all crimes are resolved by convictions. As far as right wing media and Republican leaders using Russian disinformation ‘alternate facts’, please look up the intelligence report provided to the trump which categorically documented Russian disinformation claims and tactics deployed to support the trump in the 2016 and 2020 elections and compare those findings with Republican leadership and right wing ‘entertainment’ news commentary at that time. This report, prepared for trump was suppressed and not released until later. Consider that the FOX ‘entertainment’ news defense regarding defamation lawsuits for commentary from Tucker Carlson is that ‘he is an entertainer which no rational person would take seriously’ - this is the official FOX defense. There were Republican Senate investigations based on commentary from known Russian agents posing as Ukrainian citizens despite being categorically informed by our intelligence people before they were invited to comment. Those are a few facts - look them up yourself. My comments are intended to inform and not to divide; accusing me of this is called ‘projection’, one of several classic disinformation tactics which includes ‘what-about-isms’, reflections, a ‘fire hose’ of alternate facts, willful misrepresentations, cherry picked facts, half truths, and innuendo. … … … I will no longer bother addressing your comments; I have tried but have learned from past experience that there is little to be gained in trying to convince someone to deal with their unconscious biases. … … … Like the old joke about how many psychiatrists it takes to change a lightbulb; ‘Only one, but the lightbulb has got to really want to change’. I fear for the future of our country which could shine so much brighter if all of our ‘lightbulbs’ would just wake up and see the light.

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    San
    04/23/2021

    As Chauvin should be. That being said I think the people demanding he the maximum sentence are just piling on. In fairness his intent wasn’t to kill him (Floyd) but because of his obscene and extreme arrogance this happened by showing off for newbies at his side and the crowd so it became an in humane power play. 12 years sounds good to me.

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    verymary
    04/22/2021

    Of his face, all I could see were his eyes, but they were enough: he couldn't believe it. In his arrogance and his white-male comfort zone, he could not believe that any jury would've declared him guilty. Yet there he was: guilty on international television (hardly a surprise to anybody else, since we saw him murder George Floyd on international television)./Nine minutes and twenty-nine seconds' worth, Former Police Officer Derek Chauvin! That was how much oxygen you withheld from George Floyd's lungs! Yet you're in shock and disbelief over the guilty verdict. Shock and disbelief and anger! -- as in, how dare they?/Of course, I was relieved to have his face mostly obscured by a mask. I don't want to see his face, and in fact I hope I'll soon forget his dreadful name./He'll be in solitary confinement, but I would prefer a few bunkmates for him: his three fellow officers on the scene, the Proud Boys, the NRA's Wayne LaPierre, Breonna Taylor's killers, Amaud Arbery's killers, whoever taught him that he was above the law, and the Donald J. Trumps, both Sr. and Jr./Even so, a different jury of his peers -- Congressman Ron Johnson, Senator John Kennedy, Senator Ted Cruz, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Senator Lindsey Graham, Brett Favre, Ricky Schroder, Senator Rand Paul, Senator Josh Hawley, Congressman Steve King, Sean Hannity, and the KKK -- will not be taking part in his next trial on appeal./Persona non grata, Mr. Chauvin! We will not be watching you on Fox, thirty years from now, when you finally get out. And Mar-a-Lago will have been snatched up for decades of unpaid back taxes by then. The Minnesota Twins won't need you to coach third base. Oh, and no police department anywhere will want you. It seems that you neglected to memorize the Policeman's Oath of Office: "On my honor, I will never betray my integrity, my character, or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always maintain the highest ethical standards and uphold the values of my community, and the agency I serve."/Alarms should've gone up everywhere when you stumbled over that word "honor."

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    jimK
    04/21/2021

    UPDATE: @Causes, @Bart: Thanks for removing the bogus account as quickly as you did. It was greatly appreciated. … … … Friends: please note that any posts coming from “@Jimk” instead of “@jimK” with my photo ID are not from me. This is a spoofed account worthy of RNC strategists or the SVR. My account is associated with @jimK and not associated with @Jimk. A quick check can be made by looking at the account of the poster- mine has more followers and posted comments, the spoofed account has relatively few. Some of the comments are what I might have said but many others are clearly not. Sorry that I did not catch this earlier. … … … Since it is obvious that some people commenting are not what they appear to be, you might consider the comments of @Carina and @PattyZ as emanating from some other source due to their reliance on distorted facts and emotive buzz words, like ‘communist’, undefined and nebulous links to ‘our Rights’ or ‘the Constitution’. These are well studied disinformation campaign tactics employed by Russian disinformation campaign strategists. … … … I am really pissed about this as it is the second time that my image has been linked to a phony account. It would give me great pleasure to see anyone who has been tricked by the a$$h@le who did this to call them out and to stop following them. … … … Thanks, jimK

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    Reality1Check
    04/22/2021

    JimK, you obviously have no real grasp of the difference between “News” and “Commentary.” One is fact based and the other is, broader than just “facts.” Unfortunately, the mainstream media has determined that “facts” are not enough. Commentary News needs to be the standard to increase the influence of one specific group and discredit anyone, or any group, over the specific group they support. For all their faults, and there are many, Fox News at tries. The others don’t even try.

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    jimK
    04/21/2021

    You know that this conviction would not have been possible if it was not for the young teenager who stood her ground and videotaped Derek Chauvin executing a detainee. If this had been an older older person or a male, I believe the police would have confiscated the phone to erase the video or forced her to stop recording. The optics of police interference with a young lady taping the police would surely have dissuaded police from interfering.

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    jimK
    04/21/2021

    targeted: I am sure that you are a real person, unfortunately. Please read what I have said before offering up alternate interpretations. I said that disinformation science often relies upon emotive buzz words that mean a lot to all of us, but these words are tied to irrelevant arguments or illogical comments which are made more emotive by linking these comments to ‘my freedom’ or ‘the constitution’ or ‘communistic’ or ‘socialistic’, for example. There is no human being who has friends, a family or belongs to any organization that is not socialistic - and that has been true ever since humans gathered into Hunter-gatherer groups. I can assure you that my comments are based upon known facts which I do not bother to keep repeating over and over again. And, if you feel that my conclusions are not based upon known facts, please let me know and if I find that I misremembered, misinterpreted, misunderstood or misstated something, I will correct it. I have never said that any police abuses were based on systematic racism. I have said that people, including police are effected by systemic racism - and these are completely different things. If you do not understand the difference please read some of my prior comments. … … … Your comments that FBI files state that more violent crimes are committed by blacks is a misleading byproduct of yours and possibly the FBI’s or the country’s systemic racism. The more accurate description is that more blacks are convicted of violent crimes on a per capita basis which is, in fact, proof that systemic and possibly even systematic racism exists. If all people are created equal than they are on average, all equally motivated and all on average of equal intelligence at birth. I fully believe and fully accept that premise. The only explanations for a higher crime conviction rate must come from the fact that they are not afforded the same opportunities in life as privileged whites on average or that the system treats these ‘others’ differently than than they do white people. Either that, or you feel that blacks and other disenfranchised ‘others’ are inherently inferior beings - and that my dear, is about as racist as you can be. The fact that there are higher conviction rates for any group of ‘others’ is direct evidence of both systemic and/or systematic racism which is real and must be addressed wherever it occurs. … … … I do hope that this clears up your concerns. I have tried repeatedly for a long time to address issues such as these on this site with little success and will admit that, on occasion, my frustration with people who look but cannot see overwhelms me and I let my emotional frustration leak out when I see all of the illogical comments based on cherry picked facts, alternate realities and documented disinformation tactics. I do not think it is as much narcissistic as it is pure frustration worrying about the country with so many people who are so eager to be misled and to propagate known Russian disinformation designed to disrupt our democracy which is eagerly gobbled up and spread by opportunistic Republican politicians for political gain or by right wing entertainment ‘news’ sites for market share and advertising revenues.

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    jimK
    04/21/2021

    Bart, Causes: Thank you for kyboshing the bogus spoofed account that someone had created to misrepresent me. I cannot find it anymore and your very rapid response in removing that account is very much appreciated. THANKS!

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    Penelope
    04/22/2021

    I want the three nominees for the USPS Board of Governors to be approved ...and I want them to get rid of DeJoy.

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    larubia
    04/21/2021

    @Carina & co. I tend not to respond to your rhetoric, but your excuses are beyond reason. You allege: You: THREE TIMES THE LETHAL AMOUNT OF FENTANYL Me: (please cite your source) This was a meme on Facebook that has been proven FALSE! Blood tests conducted as part of Floyd's post-mortem autopsy revealed 11 nanograms per milliliter, or ng/ml, of fentanyl present. According to expert witnesses, this wasn't enough to be considered fatal” -USA Today You: Derek Chauvin ... had been intimidated by the influence of a angry mob, Me: I suggest you watch the video. Chauvin did not budge from Floyd’s neck even after he died. No amount of yelling, threatening, or pleading from the crowd made him change his behavior nor that smart-assed smirk on his face. The man wasn’t intimidated;he was entitled. You: a toxic Congress woman, Maxine Waters, and even by the comments of Dictator Biden. Me: I agree that Ms. Waters statements about being more “confrontational” we’re out of line, however I do not see anyone carrying Water’s Flags, repeating her words, or taking her marching orders. The precedent for speaking out on court cases began with our last president. You can thank him for Biden’s comments. You: The United States is failing. States should secede from what is becoming the Communist States of America and is on the path for complete destruction. Me: Sorry you feel that way. I’m sure there is another country you & your friends might like, one where everyone is pale and Christian? That’s not America. In fact, it never has been.

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    NoHedges
    04/22/2021

    If Water’s is not held accountable for her rhetoric encouraging violence, which could still leave this case open to being appealed, then Democrats position on holding Trump legally accountable for his violent rhetoric will be greatly diminished and look as if it the Democrats position is one of trying to use the insurrection to gain political standing. This would not be a good time for such hypocrisy to play out across the nation and via the lens of bias media outlets. What Water’s said was wrong, encouraging “confrontation” is subject to multiple interpretations and is not the type of leadership most left leaning voters are seeking to to hear. Given the recent events at the Capitol, censure is warranted and should be come from within the Dem party. Midterms are at stake, the slim legislative majority is on the line, it is time to send a message that the majority, however slim, is valued and allow Dems to govern from a place of strength. Pelosi is allowing personal friendship with Waters to get in the way of her duty to provide and be seen as a beacon of equitable leadership.

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    John
    04/22/2021

    @jimK Thanks Jim for the heads up on the spoofer to your account. That’s extremely underhanded of the coward who did that, and I do hope the Administrator of this site deals with this swiftly.

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    Dave
    04/21/2021

    Carina. Please seek therapy. Your paranoia is totally out of control, useless for any conversation and is completely annoying the hell out of me.

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    Philip
    04/22/2021

    I personally agree with the verdicts.

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    Linda
    04/22/2021

    Is it possible for us to be civil? Back in the ‘50’s and early ‘60’s, I seem to recall people disagreeing with each other without being nasty, rude, or ugly. I think we can do better. Don’t let my photo fool you. I’m older than I may appear! 😉

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    Dave
    04/21/2021

    Thanks jimK for pointing this out the fake accounts. I will ignore them and I hope your fake account disappears as well.

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    Frank_001
    04/21/2021

    Thanks for the heads up, @jimK! Because your tone was imitated, I thought you updated your account. I guess somebody had to play "DeepFake." Have you reported the spoofer to Causes? As for other "difficult" users, it is difficult to decide who is making provocative comments — Stuck Thinkers (e.g., white supremacists), Social Media Trolls, and Serious (Paid) Disinformation Agents — to list a few. Internet Troll https://blog.neongoldfish.com/general/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-internet-trolling Russian Disinformation Facebook and Twitter Say Russians Are Again Targeting Americans With Disinformation - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/01/technology/facebook-russia-disinformation-election.html